Apparently it’s very easy to treat, if you can and do seek treatment. Which is why the annual deaths are usually rural regions.

From the article:

>Symptoms often begin within a week of infection and may include fever, chills, swollen lymph nodes, nausea and weakness.

If I had symptoms like that I think I'd just stay at home and not visit a doctor yet. Certainly not within 24 hours of them showing up.

Mumps, a common kid's viral disease, has overlapping symptoms, so many people might follow a "let's wait and see" approach.

Also, medical practitioners may not immediately put on their bioharzard protection suite when someone walks in with swollen lymph nodes and nausea.

That's why it is important to take news of incidents and location of the occurrence into consideration, both as a patient and as medical staff.

Mumps is commonly vaccinated against when children are very young. It’s one of the Ms in the MMR vaccine.

It’s 2025 my guy. Can’t count on kids getting vaccinated anymore.

Depends where you are. I guess the U.S. has an outsized representation online but it’s less than 5% of the world.

Up here kids are not permitted to go to school without it. There’s some exceptions but they’re, in practice, very difficult to secure.

The vast majority are. Most parents are not idiots.

That may not be true. Most people are idiots, and most parents are people.

why, then, are measles cases on the rise in north america?

Its true that they are but the number of cases is still just around 1,000 which is not many in the context of the overall population, and only about 1/10 of the numbers we saw in the late 1980/early 1990s.

Most parents still get their kids vaccinated. You hear about the few oddballs that don't when their kids get sick and it's trumpted all over the news as if it's a new pandemic.

As of July 2025, the U.S. had about 1,300 measles cases compared to over 2,700 in Canada as of May 2025: https://vaxopedia.org/2025/06/02/the-north-american-measles-.... See also: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-measles-cases-hit-highest-n...

Canada obviously had only 1/10th the population. Your attempted connection to domestic policies is spurious.

I think the statistical anomaly you point out is an incredibly worthwhile thing to explore. There’s something to understand there. But I’m not sure it directly supports or refutes any arguments about domestic policies, other than perhaps saying that domestic policy making does not have a 100% guaranteed desired effect.

There’s likely numerous other variables to explore.

No, I’m agreeing that it’s not about domestic policies. That’s my point. OP tried to bring domestic cuts to Medicaid into the issue to make it sound like the measles cases in the U.S. have something to do with that domestic policy.

That's a misrepresentation. I did not claim that the cuts to medicaid caused the rise in measles; that would have been a silly claim, considering those cuts are being made right now, whereas the rise in measles is already ongoing.

I'm saying it's part of a pattern. The rise in measles, after it was practically eliminated, is obviously caused by the rise in anti-vax beliefs. And that plus the other factors I mentioned are part of a pattern of carelessness and misinformation around public health. All of it put together, these are extremely worrisome developments.

> I'm saying it's part of a pattern

Is there a rise of anti-vax beliefs in Mexico?

I have no idea, but I do know there's a rise of anti-vax beliefs in the US, and to a (hopefully) slightly lesser extent in Europe.

I don't know much about Mexico, but that seems perfectly plausible to me?