Incredibly poor communication is the hallmark of climate activism

tomhow · 2026-07-14T00:51:09.000000Z

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. It's a hallmark of a low-effort comment that it is not even terminated with a period, and this is the case with many of your comments.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

miltonlost · 2026-07-13T15:22:33.000000Z

Communication about truth is also hard when against decades of industry, talk radio, right-wing media, and Republican propaganda lying about the climate. And humans, with very little scientific or critical thinking skills, felt comfort in the lie that "everything is ok!". Getting past a person's discomfort in order for them to accept truth is a high hill.

snapcaster · 2026-07-13T15:24:32.000000Z

okay sure, but also put the fucking graph at the top come on

Lomlioto · 2026-07-13T15:59:21.000000Z

The hallmark of climate activism is the ignorance of the common human being.

An Inconvenient Truth and other media formats are very well made.

tomhow · 2026-07-14T00:52:39.000000Z

Please don't post flame bait on HN, including population-wide swipes like “the ignorance of the common human being”. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Lomlioto · 2026-07-14T12:04:53.000000Z

But in this particular case its true and the fundamental issue we have?

"Ignorance is the fundamental lack of knowledge, information, or awareness about a particular subject."

Its not even an evaluation of my side.

I'm fine with accepting that people have to work, are busy with other things, struggle in live etc.

But the sentence in itself is not bad? And it directly references op.

tomhow · 2026-07-14T19:36:28.000000Z

If it's true “in this particular case”, it's true of every other case too, and thus it's not really a substantive assertion. It's just a fact of life that affects everything, and pointing it out in this particular instance reeks of “shouting into the void”. Sure it might be cathartic but it doesn't move us any closer to a solution, and serves only to make us more miserable. In HN guidelines terms it can be seen as fulmination or curmudgeonliness, which we're specifically trying to avoid here.

It would be much better to think about novel ways of overcoming the issue and sharing that in the spirit of curious conversation, which is the primary ethos of HN.

Lomlioto · 2026-07-15T10:39:06.000000Z

I have spend so much time and energy in the last 6 years talking about it, trying to do stuff, isn't it sometimes valid to just respond like this to at least have a short outlet?

After all i didn't create an original comment, i leveraged a response instead.

rektomatic · 2026-07-13T16:08:15.000000Z

Isn't that the documentary that cited a study saying all snow would disappear forever from Earth by the year 2013?

Max_Mustermann · 2026-07-13T16:21:26.000000Z

They had a scientist saying the Arctic could be "ice-free" in the summer by 2013. The new forecast is for that to happen sometime mid-century.

Sharlin · 2026-07-13T16:54:04.000000Z

I'm not sure if you're being actively malicious or just a great example of how lies can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes, but your comment is a great example of what we're up against here.

If by "all snow would disappear forever from Earth" you meant "the Arctic could be seasonal-ice-free in the summer" by 2013, then, sure.

Lomlioto · 2026-07-14T12:02:24.000000Z